VOLUME VII JUDITH ORLOFF - Healing With The Masters

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VOLUME VII WITH

JUDITH ORLOFF MARCH 29, 2011

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Season VII | March 29, 2011

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Judith Orloff

Welcome, everyone, to Healing with the Masters. It’s Tuesday, March 29, 2011. We are so excited to have a very, very special guest, Judith Orloff. You might be familiar with Judith. She’s a very well‐known author. She’s a well‐known psychiatrist. She’s actually being seen as someone who is transforming the face of psychiatry. Judith Orloff, M.D., is an assistant clinical professor of psychiatry at UCLA. She’s the author of The New York Times and international bestseller Emotional Freedom. We’re going to talk about that tonight, and she’s also had a public television TV show based on this product. She is really well‐known, so if you think about Dean Ornish and Mehmet Oz, she is doing for psychiatry what they have been doing for mainstream medicine. She’s on the National Health magazine’s advisory board, and Body + Soul magazine has called Dr. Orloff one of the nation’s top doctors. As a board certified psychiatrist, Dr. Orloff blends her traditional medical skills with intuition to enhance patient care. Dr. Orloff shows us that each day presents opportunities for us to be heroes in our own lives, to turn away from negativity, react constructively and seize command of any situation. We are so thrilled and happy to have Judith back with us today. Welcome, Judith Orloff, to Healing with the Masters. Thank you. I’m thrilled to be with you all. It’s great to have you here. I’m just going to turn up your volume here a little bit and turn up my volume here a little bit, and we’ll get started. So Emotional Freedom, you’re in your paperback launch now, and it’s a New York Times bestseller. It’s a guide to liberate and transform your life. Now, liberate and transform your life is something that many of us are looking to do, and I know that we’re kind of in special times these days, and there’s all kinds of wild stuff happening with the economy. What is the impact of emotional stress on people these days? Well, what I’ve seen in my psychiatric practice and also traveling around on my book tour is that people are under more stress and they’re experiencing more worry and anxiety than I’ve ever seen in my entire career. This is the perfect time for Emotional Freedom to come out, because I’m presenting emotions as the path to spiritual and intuitive awakening. So when you have stressors on the outside, that allows you to deal with the emotions, such as fear, worry, anxiety, to awaken yourself more and to gain mastery in terms of yourself and how you deal with these energies called emotions, because if you took away the name, let’s say of fear, or if you didn’t know the name of fear, anxiety, worry or compassion, patience and joy, if you didn’t know those names but you just felt the energy of them, that would be the difference in frequency of the different emotions. So learning to work with that energy and transform it to its counterpart is part of what I’m teaching in the book in terms of how to transform fear with courage, how to transform frustration with patience, how to transform anger with compassion and also how to deal with difficult people that I call emotional vampires, the people who suck you dry. You have to pay particular attention to that now in this day and time so you don’t allow that to happen, so you can stay as positive and open as possible. That was a lot, and I know you know a lot. So this notion of emotions, the emotions are actually here to — it sounds like you’re saying that they’re actually here to help us. They are. As a psychiatrist I was trained at UCLA and at USC. I was never taught about spirituality and emotions. I was never taught the energy of emotions, and so what I do in my work and in the book is to

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combine traditional medicine with an appreciation of cell energy, with intuition, with spirituality so that you can see emotions as teachers in your life rather than just something to torment you. Then you can learn to transform them. It’s incredibly empowering when you learn to work with emotions so that you can own the moment rather than them getting you. That’s really cool. So rather than the moment owning us or them owning us, by managing through our emotions, we can actually own the process and own our own power again. Yes, own our own power instead of so predictably being knocked down by fear, as most people are. So that’s what it kind of comes down to. We get knocked down by fear. We do, and most people just react when their emotional buttons get pushed. That isn’t a sign of empowerment, so what I’m suggesting in the book is that you have a choice about how you respond. Then you can own the moment. Whoever you’re reacting with, whatever you’re facing, you can have a choice about how you respond rather than just reacting when your buttons get pushed, like most people do. It’s a very different way of viewing emotions. Yeah, and it feels incredibly empowering when we can take an emotion and rather than judge it, we can use it. Yes, we use it as a teacher, but that’s what I believe, is that we can use everything in life as a teacher. People wonder what is their spiritual path, and to me the spiritual path is what happens when you open your eyes in the morning. You just start living. That’s great. Opening our eyes is the spiritual path. It is. Literally and figuratively. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Anybody who comes into your path that day, they’re your teachers, and any emotions you feel that day, they’re your teachers. They’re your challenge to grow stronger and more heart‐centered and more intuitive to be able to look at them as a challenge. A big principle in the book that I talk about is not engaging negativity or dark energy basically. Don’t engage it. Most people are so mesmerized by fearful things. They think about it. They put their attention on it, but one secret to emotional freedom is not to engage it. It comes up in the most mundane things. I had an example the other day where I was parked in — I was at my friend’s house. She lives in an apartment on the beach, and I was parked in a space I shouldn’t have been parked in. It was number 11, and either the owner or the owner’s friend came by, just a ball of negative energy and fear and anger. He was yelling, and he threatened that he would just park his car there and leave it, which he did and then left. So we couldn’t get out basically, you see, but I apply the principles of the book to everything in my life. So I looked at this. All right, we have this negative energy blocking us. How are we going to deal with it? So my friend, who is an expert driver, just took my car and angled it around so we got around the guy’s car, and we just drove off. So basically that was a huge triumph, because we didn’t engage him. We didn’t give him what he wanted. We didn’t give him the fight. We didn’t give him any energy. He came out; we weren’t there. How do you deal with something that blocks you? It almost feels like you created that opening for a different choice — Oh, absolutely.




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— in that very moment instead of engaging with that angriness and that angry guy. You changed the moment by feeling — did you feel an emotion in the moment and then allow it? What did you do? Well, the first thing was I was so shocked someone would pull their car up and threaten to leave it there. I’d never experienced anything like that, but you see, there’s a part of me that goes, “Wow, this is something new. I’ve never experienced this. How am I going to deal with it?” That’s really a lovely way to approach it. Beginner’s mind. Yeah, that’s how I did, but my friend is a guy. He started to react in a testosterone way with his voice raised, and he said, “You have to move the car.” I said, “Don’t do that. That won’t work.” He read the book too, and we both practice it, so we both looked at each other. “All right. How are we going to deal with it?” We made it fun, and we got to talk about it for a long time afterwards, how successful we were with it. So we had fun with it. The point is the scenario could have gone another way. I live in LA, so road rage is all over the place. The guy could have pulled a gun on us, but we didn’t take it there. We didn’t engage it, and the point is, for everyone listening, you don’t want to engage that darkness or get into a fight with it or combat it. You don’t want to do any of that. You just want to outsmart it. I like that, and you kind of outsmart it by being in the moment, by feeling your feelings and allowing them and then go to the next level with it. Okay, I did that. I’ve been there, and I had a moment of activation, but what am I going to do now? Right, exactly, and how can we outsmart the dark energy? Freedom is about, for me, emotional freedom is about clearing out the darkness within or making room for more light. Part of that means learning how to work with darkness so that you don’t get triggered by it and that you can grow larger than it and then outsmart it so it doesn’t get you. I love that challenge. I love that challenge, because I want to be free. That’s why I wrote the book. I want to be free. I work with all this in myself, where I work with my fear or my anxiety or whatever with situations just like this. This is a microcosm of something larger. You have an interesting story in your book on page 41, where you talked about the encounter with the gang members stealing your radio. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was another great example, because I was — my father at that time had Parkinson’s disease, and he was getting demented. I was looking for assisted care facilities for him as his only daughter, and I was going alone. It took a lot for me to do that and stay centered. I was up in this place, taking a look at it. It was overlooking the ocean and also a parking area, and I was looking out and thinking, “Oh, my father would like this room because of the ocean.” Then I glanced at my car, and I saw these kids breaking into my car and stealing my radio. It was surreal, and my first reaction was, “I’m going down there. I’m not going to let anybody take anything else away from me,” because I was so distraught about my father and everything. So I ran down there, and I looked at the guy. He had gotten my radio. They were sitting in the back seat of their car, and I looked at him. I can’t believe I said this. I just very calmly, even lovingly — I don't know what came over me. I just said, “If you give me that radio back, I won’t report you to the police,” which in retrospect is really silly to say that. I mean, he was about to drive off, and I swear to God, that young kid just looked at me and handed me my radio and smiled. Then he pulled out. Wow. I know. It’s amazing. I have heard, many, many, many stories like this, where a man with a knife came up to rob someone and she looked them in their eyes and thought, “I love you,” and he looked back at her and saw it and



released her, in shock, and ran away and another one where the woman in the subway turned to this gang, who was really starting to harass her, and she said, “I really could use your help.” Then they completely surrounded her and protected her. So you’re talking about a different way of being in the world. So let’s say we’re in that moment of reaction. There we are, and we’re reacting. We’re in it. What can we do in that very moment? Judith:


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I always like to witness myself. Just as a general rule, I try and witness myself everywhere. I find myself endlessly amusing, so it’s easy, because I get to look at myself and see where I get activated, see where I don’t. It’s always good to have a witness stage. So if you notice — now, there’s a chapter in the book on energy vampires. Let’s say you’re reactive to an energy vampire. Let’s say you’re around a criticizer or a controller, somebody who’s said negative things to you. “Oh, darling, it looks like you should lose a few pounds,” whatever they say that will activate you or, “Who are you to get that job or get that promotion?” They’ll activate you. They’ll push your buttons. You could notice this. Suddenly you feel two inches tall. Suddenly you’re faltering, or you feel angry, and you’re activated. Observe yourself, and then in that moment, take a breath. Center yourself and say to yourself, “How can I react to this from a stronger place, from a different place rather than just reacting when my buttons get pushed,” and not always try to think of brilliant responses to people who try and trigger me. They don’t do it on purpose a lot of times. It’s just who they are, and so in that moment, you can turn it around. For instance, I had one relative — sometimes you go to the family dinner table, and the emotional vampires can be there. They say all kinds of things to relatives, so sometimes people are trapped at the family dinner table. This is a long time ago. One aunt of mine kept asking every time she’d see me — she goes, “Are you married yet?” It would be that trigger. At that time it was a trigger for me. So I looked at her, and I just said, “That’s not very helpful if you say that,” and that was it. That was it, but the point is and what I stress in the book — this is key for everyone, so I hope you get this — is that when you respond to an energy vampire or difficult situation, you have to do it from a centered place. You do it with a tone that is either kind, firm or compassionate. You don’t have a snippy, angry, pleading, begging tone, nothing. You have to have — Passive aggressive. The tone is the key to transforming the energy, the tone and also the look in your eyes. So we have to find that within ourselves, though. We have to find it in that moment. That’s the moment of getting centered, is discovering that place of center, that place of kindness, compassion or that place of firmness, where we are no longer in that triggered moment, though. Would that be our correct assessment? Yes. You can also take a break and go to the bathroom. I always recommend that. If I’m triggered and something is happening and things are going downhill and I can take a break, I’ll just go. There’s a three‐minute meditation in the book that I practice myself all the time and suggest to my patients, where just for three minutes you take a few deep breaths. You put your hand over your heart, which is the heart chakra, the center for unconditional love, and you sit there, and you just focus on something really beautiful and positive as you’re breathing. What that does is that brings you back to your center and yourself, so your triggered self, which is frenetic, becomes calmer, and you can come back to your center and then decide how you want to respond to the person. The key is, when you’re dealing with energy vampires, they get energy when you get upset and you react. That’s what they’re looking for. And they’re not doing it necessarily consciously. This is likely an unconscious, habitual behavior. Would that be accurate? Well, most of it is unconscious. It’s very rare you find a vindictive type that purposely goes after somebody for the kill.



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Right. Sometimes there are those people but rarely. Mainly people are caught in unconscious patterns, and they’re just enacting what their parents did. They have no awareness of their behavior. If you respond to them in a very firm way, that’s nice. For instance, if you have a victim in your life, somebody who’s caught in, “Poor me,” and going around in circles, “My boyfriend doesn’t understand me. My boss hasn’t given me the promotion. My mother —” whatever, going round and round and round, and you come home after a long day’s work and there they are on the phone — most people, they’re compassionate. They want to listen, but they can go on for a couple of hours. It could go on for a really long time to drain you. So what you can say is just, “I love you. You’re my friend, but I can only listen for a couple of minutes unless you want to get into solutions.” Oh, that’s great. So, “I love you. You’re my friend. I can only listen to a couple of minutes unless you want to get into solutions.” That’s awesome. Right, but how long did that take to say? Yeah, seconds. Seconds. You do not want to get into it. You don’t want to get into a confrontation. Now, a part of emotional freedom is learning how to get in and out of things quickly. This is really cool. So we’re not going to have the sit‐down conversation with them. No. We’re just stopping the energy. Oh, no. You don’t want that at all. You want it to be as short as possible, but you want to have the tone right. You want to have the eyes right, and then if they come back at you and say, “Well, what kind of friend are you that you don’t want to listen to me,” you go, “I’m a good friend. I love you. I just don’t want to go around in circles.” Right. You just stay firm. You just say it, and the tone is loving. People are used to no being a punishment or limit setting being a punishment, and that’s not what I’m suggesting here. I’m suggesting being very loving with the energy that you transmit when you speak but at the same time setting the limit. Well, Jackie has an interesting question here. She’s asking what about over email in comparison to face‐ to‐face. Oh, tone can come across in email. You have to be very careful. I mean, people get into big trouble on email. Yeah, they do, because the tone doesn’t convert sometimes. It converts too intensely. No, it doesn’t, and also people in the heat of reactivity say things they regret, and they can’t take it back. No. I would not suggest dealing with these things by email. No. That’s not good unless you really spend some time with it and really decide what you want to say in a very short, succinct way. Make sure it’s loving. You have to scan it for being loving and respectful of the other person.



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Yeah. In my experience of email too is, even when you’re loving and accepting and it’s all over the words, they have this thing that they can reference over and over again and read whatever they want into it. So I would say phone if you can’t be face‐to‐face. Yeah. Phone but make sure your tone is right, because what people do is they want to get each other back. That won’t get anywhere except you’re in that dance of getting each other back. Couples stay stuck in that for years. That’s what they want, is to get each other back, but if you want to be free, if you want to solve the problem, if you want to communicate on a higher level, then you can try what I’m suggesting. So we need to center. We need to find a tone that’s kind and firm or compassionate and be very short and brief in how we address these folks. I used to do communications. Don’t vary from the message. No, don’t vary from the message, and just realize that no is a complete sentence. That’s great. I love you, Judith. You’re awesome. Thank you. People feel a need to keep explaining themselves, and you don’t need to. No is a complete sentence. Yes. So you don’t have to justify yourself. You don’t have to explain yourself. You just get to say firmly what you need. What you need and say it lovingly with a soft tone, not with harsh — you don’t want to be that punishing mother in their eyes. You want to feel okay with setting the limits that you feel that is a healthy thing and a good thing for you and a good thing for them, and you just want to share where you’re at. Also I want to say to have friendships or relationships where other people can do that with you. That’s interesting. So we can kind of test ourselves to see if others are able to do it with us. Oh, yes. I just had a friend recently who set a limit with me. I was going on and on about something that happened in my condominium association, which was just aggravating me. This is over a period of time, and she just said, “I don’t want to hear about this anymore.” Wow. Yeah. At first it kind of feels strong when someone says that, but then I thought, “You know, she’s right.” She’s right, so I was able to honor that. We have to really be able to do that with each other. I just want to say, in the book I talk about different emotional types, and so it’s important to know which emotional type you are, in terms of how you deal with things. Yeah, let’s talk about that. Let’s talk about the different types. Yeah, yeah. It will help you know your own type, and it will help you communicate with others better. The four types are the intellectual, somebody who is very much in their head and not in their bodies. The second type is the emotional empath, which is the type I am, which is open and sensitive and intuitive but tends to be an emotional sponge in the world and take on the energy of others and the stressful energy of the world, so you can get exhausted by it. The third is the gusher, somebody who is able to express their emotions very fluently and share with friends, but they risk over‐sharing and giving



too much information and burning their friends out with too much sharing. The fourth is the rock, and the rock is somebody who’s strong and steady and there for you, but the mate is always complaining they’re not sharing their emotions and they’re boring. So the rock needs to express an emotion a day, I’m happy; I’m sad; I’m in wonderment of the world, whatever and then also to open up the sexual passion a bit. Jennifer: Judith:

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So we’ve got the intellectual, empath, gusher and the rock. So how can understanding these make us happy? It’s important to know this is the type that you revert to under stress. So it’s important to know what your positive points are. In the book I go through quizzes. Are you an intellectual? Are you an empath? Are you a gusher? Are you a rock? What are the positive points of this type, and what points need to be looked at? Now, for instance, an intellectual, the positive point is that they’re very smart and brilliant in their head, very logical and stimulating intellectually. I love to think things out, but the negative side is that they tend to be out of touch with their emotions and their intuition. If they have a mate who is emotional, very emotional, they go in there and try to solve the problem too quickly and aggravate their mate a lot. They’re the fixers kind of. Fixer but too quick. The timing isn’t right. Solutions have their place but not in the beginning. If somebody’s crying, you don’t want to lead with trying to fix the situation. You want to lead with empathizing and allowing the person time to express themselves. So that’s a preference, but they can use that preference to shift into a different way of being. Yes. It’s always use your preference to balance out your other traits. For instance, you can revel in your mind, but also learn a little empathy and don’t try and fix things so quickly, and try to express your emotions and be in your body more, because the downside to the intellectual is they tend to live from the neck up. They forget they even have a body. Even a few yoga stretches, anything to get them in their body would be good. So if we know someone who is an intellectual, then how do we manage that kind of person? Well, you have to respect the fact that they’re coming from their head and they prefer that point. So if I want to get a point across to an intellectual, I will frame it in an intellectual point of view. I’ll speak their language. Right, frame it in the language they understand. Yeah. That’s the easiest. Now, the empath of course is a very special type with special needs. The empath, how do you know if you’re an empath? Have you ever been labeled as overly sensitive? Do you tend to replenish yourself alone rather than with groups of people? Do you like to take your own car places? Are you sensitive to noise, smells and excessive talking? I think you just described our entire audience. I know. I have a big audience of empaths because I speak to them, because I have so much understanding, because I am one. I’ve had to really work with various techniques in order to protect my own energy so that I am not drained by everything and everyone around me, because empaths tend to be recluses, because they don’t want to go outside a lot, because it’s just too overwhelming a lot of times. The world is very overwhelming, and relationships can be overwhelming if you don’t know how to set clear limits and boundaries and carve out your own space.




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So we don’t have to be alone. This is kind of a choice. We can use this understanding to knowing that that’s kind of our preference and choose to not be so sensitive, or is it different? No, no. That was an intellectual question. That was a question coming from an intellectual to an empath. Oh, yes, exactly. No, no, no. I encourage everyone, while they develop their sensitivity — the positive points of that is you get deep intuition, deep connection with nature and passion and the universe and the mysteries. I mean, you feel everything. I mean everything. And that’s a good thing, but when it gets too — I would never give it up. When it gets to that point of exhaustion and overwhelmed, though, how can we then protect ourselves as an empath? Well, there’s a good portion of the book devoted to this, but number one, an empath, it feels better when they have their own space. So wherever you are — let’s say you’re thinking of living with someone or you’re in a relationship with someone. You have to have your own space somewhere in your house. You have to have it. You have to get away. Empaths feel better when they get away, and so you have to have that alone time to nurture your interior life and to enjoy the aloneness and to meditate and all the contemplative things that empaths love to do, but you have to make time for that. If you’re rushing around all the time and you’re not having that meditation time or not having time with nature, then empaths can get sick. They can get fibromyalgia. They have very sensitive nerve endings too. The pain nerve endings are very sensitive on empaths. They tend to be more sensitive to pain. In terms of medication, they usually require much less medication than other people, because they’re more sensitive it. They’re sensitive to noise and smells and excessive talking, so you have to just honor that alone time and also learn how to set very clear limits and boundaries with people so they don’t encroach upon your space and your energy. You have to be your own advocate there. Again, by doing that in the same way you described earlier, which is kind, firm, compassionate, it’s that kind of a way to claim your boundaries. Absolutely and to not feel guilty, to not feel like a hypochondriac, to not feel like you’re ashamed of your sensitivity, like so many feel. People ask me to do things all the time that I can’t do, and a lot of times with the book tours especially, it’s challenging for me as an empath to be able to be there for people, which I love — I mean, I love people — but to also set limits with my energy. So many times I’ll say to people, “I’d love to be able to do that, but I can’t. I’m too tired.” But that’s okay. It’s not only okay. It’s good role modeling. Absolutely, and they get it. They’re fine with it. I mean, most people would be just fine with that. It’s like, “Oh, gosh, yeah.” I haven’t met anyone who wasn’t fine with that response. It’s just like, “I’d love to, but I can’t.” Whatever it is — everyone listening, let’s say you made a plan with somebody but you feel like staying home that night. It’s okay to say, “I’d love to go. I just can’t tonight. I’ll go another night.” It’s hard to speak up. It’s hard for empaths to speak up, and for instance, if you’re at a party and you’re encountering an emotional vampire there, let’s say a chronic talker, this is a big challenge for me. Now, if somebody starts talking a lot and then they don’t take a breath, it’s hard to get a word in edgewise.



That’s straining to me. That’s extremely draining to me, so what I’ve had to do — it’s really hard to learn, but I’ve learned it — is interrupt. Interruption is a skill. Jennifer: Judith:

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So how do you interrupt? You just have to stop them midstream. You have to say, “I’m so sorry to interrupt, but I have another commitment I have to go over to here.” You have to stop them. Interrupting is a very hard thing to do for me, but I had a very dominant mother. It was very hard to interrupt her, so I had to learn it as an adult, how to interrupt in the proper circumstances, not usually, but if someone’s a chronic talker and they’re draining my energy, I’ll interrupt. But you say it nicely. You don’t panic. Inwardly you have a dialogue. Part of emotional freedom is learning how to talk to yourself. Be your own inner coach. Let’s put it that way. I’ll say to myself inwardly as the person is talking, “This person is an emotional vampire. My energy is getting drained. They’re a chronic talker. What am I going to do? All right, you’re going to interrupt.” Yeah, but you’re Judith Orloff. What? You’re the Judith Orloff with yourself as a patient. What do the rest of us do? Absolutely you have to get this positive inner dialogue going with yourself so that you can kind of work yourself up to doing it in the moment. That’s really cool. So we listen to that inner dialogue. We listen to the inner coach, the inner psychiatrist that’s saying, “Hey, wait a minute. What are you feeling right now?” Absolutely or recognizing this is a really difficult situation here. I’m uncomfortable. You have to be your own best friend in a way to be able to have that witness state going on, where you say, “All right, here’s this person. They’re draining my energy. How am I going to get out of this?” That’s what’s going on in my head. If I was around that, that’s what would be going on in my head. Then I think, “All right, you’re going to interrupt.” Then go ahead and do it. That’s cool, and the more you practice, the more you get pretty good at it. You do, but the key is self‐compassion. It’s not beating yourself up, and it’s certainly not panicking. People often panic when they feel trapped. Empaths panic when they feel trapped and they don’t know what to say or how to get out of it, and they start feeling sick or drained. I mean, literally for an empath, another person can make you sick simply because you absorb so much. If you’re an empath and you don’t know how to shield yourself or protect your energy, you could be around an angry person, and you’ll just suck it up into your energy field. You don’t want to do that, because it can turn against you. Literally, I mean, you could do an experiment. If you’re around an angry person and you weren’t angry before and suddenly you are now, just get about 20 or 30 feet away from them, and then you’ll be out of their energy field, and see if it goes away. That’s interesting, a little experiment. Yeah. I love to experiment with life as it’s happening. The great thing is not being caught in your reactions. You get to kind of experiment with what’s going on there rather than just being triggered and reacting. Yeah. That’s what you did with the guy in the parking lot.



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Exactly. And it was number 11, which was so cool. Let’s talk about the gusher. The gusher is somebody who is so in touch with his or her feelings. It’s really beautiful. They feel angry; they express it. They feel hurt; they express it, not necessarily to the person, but they’ll call a friend. They’ll process. They’re very good processors. They don’t hold anything in, which is great for the stress hormones. They won’t have a lot of stress hormones or psychosomatic symptoms. However, a gusher can over‐share and give too much information. They could become a drama queen or king and really take you aside in the supermarket and tell you exactly what’s going on, and you don’t want to hear it. Right. Yeah, you don’t. You don’t want to hear it, and so that could burn people out. So a gusher, the way to balance the gusher’s really positive points, instead of reaching out to talk or to phone so quickly, take a few deep breaths, go inside. Tune in to your inner wisdom, your intuition and see if you can find a solution to the issue. It’s about balancing. I think processing is good, but also learn to go inside. I talk so much in the book about intuition, and it’s been such a huge part of how I practice as a psychiatrist and live as a woman, to be able to trust that inner wisdom, that gut feeling, that inner knowing, that flash, that ah‐ha moment, whatever you have that’s intuitive, to be able to trust that very much inside of yourself. Everyone who’s listening knows to trust that inner voice. Now, in addition to the head — the head and the inner voice are a bit of a different thing. The inner voice is a great source of wisdom inside if you can learn to trust it. So the gusher’s kind of preference inclination is whatever is going on in the head or the heart, it comes right out the mouth to someone else. Exactly. So the opportunity then for the gusher is to stop and reflect and use the inner guidance and check within first before gushing. Yes, tuning in, not out. In other words, the gusher is outward. They’re outward focused. That’s interesting. Yeah. I feel like I’m all of them. Yes. Well, we might have various qualities, but during stress you revert to the one that you’re most comfortable with, and that’s your main one. For instance, my main one is an empath, but I tend to have part gusher too, because I love to share and process. I don’t like to have the emotions stuck in my body, so I share and process. And I have a little intellectual in me too. I have some rock, but the main one is the gusher and the empath. So we can have more than one. Well, that’s good to know. Yeah, and I’m attracted to rocks. Yeah, that would make sense.



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Yeah, because a rock is very strong and steady and earthbound and bear‐like, just very solid. They’re not absorbing everything like the empath. So two empaths who get together, they have a lot of needs to be met between the two of them, but the rock doesn’t have all those kind of needs. It’s not the same, so the rock is more than happy to meet the empath’s needs. That’s interesting. If someone is a rock, how do they get their needs served then? Well, the rock loves to be there for other people and loves to be the strong one who is holding down the fort and is there for everybody during times of stress. They get a lot of satisfaction out of that, but they tend to be a bit boring, because they’re out of touch with their passion. Passion is about giving and receiving. The rock just wants to give, so they’re only half of the equation. They have to learn how to receive and give and get in touch with their body and their sexuality and their emotions. The rocks can be couch potatoes sometimes. They’re just happy doing nothing. They don’t like to make waves, and they’re happy with very small things, but they aren’t that in touch with their emotions. That’s the downside of the rock. So the rock, to ignite some fire in the rock, which is good — rocks like gushers, because it’s the yin and the yang. The gusher brings the rock out, and the rock solidifies the gusher. Oftentimes in relationships you attract the opposite to balance yourself, so oftentimes opposites will go well together. It’s rare I see two rocks together. It’s more like the intellectual and the empath or the gusher and the rock or the empath and the rock. It’s more yin and yang, but sometimes two intellectuals will get together. I guess they do a lot of talking. And they fix a lot of things. Fix a lot of things, make a lot of A and B columns, positives and the negatives. You talked earlier about stress hormones, and you have in your book a way that we can turn off stress hormones. So when they’re in the midst of something pretty special — you talked about the three‐ minute medication. Is there anything else we can be doing to kind of turn off those stress hormones? Yes. In every chapter I talk about how to transform an emotion, such as how to transform fear with courage or how to transform anger with compassion. Part of that chapter is learning how to harness your biology, because that’s one of the elements of emotional freedom, is having a choice about what’s happening in your biology. I have this wonderful diagram I hope everyone can look at. It’s what happens to your body during the stress response, and what happens basically is that your adrenals give off adrenaline and cortisol, which is the stress hormones. These start surging through the body. They increase your blood pressure, increase your breathing, increase your acid in your stomach, cause your muscles to tense up and decreases immunity and makes you age quicker basically if you have chronic slow burn of the stress hormones going on. The opposite of that is the relaxation response through meditation, through laughter, through exercise, and what this does is this gets the endorphins flowing, the blissful neurochemicals that cause you to calm down and feel really ecstasy and bliss. So when you notice that your stress hormones are beginning to gear up and you can feel it — you start clamping down. You start getting hyper alert. You have the choice then to stop them through certain activities, and in each chapter I go through activities related to the particular emotion. One is to start breathing, to slow everything down, to meditate, to exercise, to laugh. Those get all the endorphins flowing, so you want to do counter activities to the stress response. That allows you to harness your biology before it gets out of control, because what happens to most people, they’re always afraid. They’re always worried about something, or they’re always frustrated, because they’re being triggered all the time. What happens biologically is that these stress hormones will be roaming around in your system constantly, and you don’t want that. You want to be able to turn them off and get these blissful endorphins going. They feel so much better. Right, and you also talk about laughter.



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Laughter, yes. What you were doing and the group was doing before I came on, had the giggles and the laughter and the lightness of being and all of that, yes. That gets the endorphins going, and it calms down your system, very much so. There’s this website that I access regularly, and I actually have to stop sometimes because I have to make sure I go to the bathroom before I go to the site, because it just makes me laugh till I pee. It’s damnyouautocorrect.com. It’s images that people have taken of their phones when the auto correct puts something really awful and does the auto correct. It’s hysterical, and I’m telling you, it has really changed — because I have a very big life, and I have a lot of daily stressors. I go into one of these moments, and I just laugh. And I am a different person at the end of that. There’s all kinds of stuff on it. There’s so many things we can access now. There’s movies, and there’s TV, but there’s also little things on Google, excuse me, on YouTube. Oh, yes. There’s all kinds of stuff that you can go to, to just make yourself laugh and transition. Yes, absolutely. If you’re in a work environment, take laughter breaks. Go find somebody you like to laugh with and have a good time. That’s great. I love that, laughter breaks. Yeah, because people get very overly serious all the time. So we talked about the different types of emotions, and I’d like to get into the second half of the book here, where you talk about the different transformations. You’ve got, I think, seven of them. Is there any one in particular, as you’re on your book tour right now and people are talking to you about it, that is really coming up a lot, out of the seven transformations? Well, frustration is very big, and fear is very big. So that’s the first and the second one, yeah. Yeah, because there’s so many things in life to be frustrated about. There really are. Let’s talk about it. Yeah. There’s so many. You just go out the door, and there’s so many potential learning experiences for frustrations. Learning experiences for frustration. You are just a love. Yeah. That’s how to do it. Folks, Judith is modeling for all of us what it is to live a blessed life or at least a peaceful life. So let’s talk about fixing fear and then building courage, the first transformation. All right. Well, first of all, to get to the heart of it, fear is the mother of all negative emotions. All the difficult emotions come from that. Right. It’s the platform of all the negative ones. Yeah. It’s the mother energy.



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Yeah. I think David Hawkins, who measures kind of the megahertz of different emotions, that’s the lowest vibrating emotions. Yeah, I guess you could look at it that way. I look at it a bit differently, not low and not high. I look at it as we’re here on earth to learn certain things, and we’re given these emotions with different frequencies to learn certain lessons. If you get out of this life and you get a good handle on fear, you will have succeeded. It’s so huge to be able to say in your life, “I am not subservient to fear.” It’s a very beautiful thing, every little step you do, not to be overcome by fear. That’s a very positive thing for your soul, the development of your soul. I look at fear as a spiritual teacher in terms of how to learn courage, because if you didn’t have fear, what would there be a need for courage for? You wouldn’t need it. You need the point/counterpoint. You need fear in order to learn courage. You need frustration in order to learn patience, which is the second chapter. You need jealousy and envy in order to learn self esteem. I happen to like that chapter. That chapter’s gotten the least amount of attention, the jealousy and envy chapter, and I found it very meaningful. So Judith, what made you envious? Oh, I wrote about that. I had just one very specific thing actually. Talk about jealousy and envy. Envy is when you want something that somebody else has, and jealousy is when you’re afraid something is going to be taken away from you. That’s a really nice distinction. So envy is someone has something you want to have. Yeah. You want something that somebody else has, and jealousy is when you’re afraid something will be taken away from you, such as your boyfriend. Someone is going to steal your boyfriend. But what I was envious with — I was never envious except for in this one area. It was for many years. I was envious of friends who would get on the New York Times bestseller list. I would. I’d be envious, because I hadn’t gotten on it yet. Friends I love or people I admired, they would get on it, and I would be seething with envy. I knew it wasn’t the kind of person I wanted to be, but still it was there, so I really looked at it as my own issue, my own spiritual growth issue. I write about this in the book. It was my issue in terms of building up my own self‐esteem and learning deeply the tenet that thou shalt not compare. Each of us has our own perfect spiritual path, and we’re on it. To compare with anyone else is irrelevant. I practice prayer a lot and to pray for people I was envious of, to pray for their happiness and their success even when the mind doesn’t want to do it. The ego doesn’t want to do it of course, but you want to do it, because you want to stretch and get to a larger space with it. So over a period of years, I really worked with myself, looking at it as my own issue, a very painful issue actually, because it burns. In each emotion I go through the energy medicine of each emotion or the energetic, so I’m very aware of how each emotion feels energetically in my body. It was just like a burning sensation when envy would overtake me. It was just a burning, very strong sensation. I was with my boyfriend at the time, and I would talk with him about it. I would tell him about my envy, and he would be able to understand it. It was nice to be able to share that with somebody, but over the years I worked with my own self‐esteem. I really built up a tremendous belief in myself, so my envy has gone way down, knock on wood. I haven’t noticed it for a long time, but who knows. It may come back again. But then when I finally did get on the New York Times bestseller list, I was so happy. I was just really happy, and I felt like it was a great accomplishment. It was a goal I had set for myself, and I did it. It felt great, and I did it without the envy attached to it. I had all those years to work with my envy, so by the time I actually got it, I was in a really good place. Well, you’re once again modeling for us that this life stuff takes some practice, and you’re once again what we talked about at the beginning of the call, which is about using that emotion and using it as a vehicle to explore and to go deeper and to understand what envy is. Your whole book is filled with examples of how you have actually overcome these things yourself, that your own childhood — I mean,



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when you were talking about facing fear and developing courage, you even talked about your birth process and about being a preemie in a sterile environment and how your mom nearly died and that you spent the rest of your life searching for love. So we come by these things honestly, but we can use them. Oh, we must use them. Whatever you’re given in your life, your childhood, your parents, your emotions, your temperament, if you’re an empath, if you’re an intuitive, if you’ve had visions, if you’ve had prophecies, if you can sense energies, if you’ve always been “overly sensitive,” whatever you’re born with, that is your spiritual right to work with. That’s who you are, and you work with what you’re given. You work with what you’re given and do the best you can with it, and in the book you’ll have tools for any emotion you’ll ever go through for the rest of your life basically, how to deal with it. The way I wrote the book was that you don’t have to read it in a linear order. If you’re dealing with energy vampires right now and that’s what you need to go to, just go to that chapter. You don’t have to read it in a linear fashion. No. I hear a lot about loneliness, and I did have a question for you about the third transformation, about facing loneliness and building connections. So you say that there are 30 million Americans who live alone. Are they all lonely? No. How do we go about overcoming loneliness and building connection? Because I know a lot of people who are in this community, who feel like they’re kind of alone because they have different views about the world, and they’re really practicing hard on their lives and committed to shifting, and some people around them aren’t. Yes, I understand that situation, but it’s not a matter of living alone or not living alone. It’s a matter of how connected you feel to yourself, to spirit and to others. Kind of your choice. Well, some people choose to live alone. It’s not like this horrible punishment like it’s made out to be. Some people prefer that. Some people are in a relationship, and yet they have their own spaces, particularly empaths who like to have their own spaces. So it just depends on your preferences, but what’s most important to combat loneliness is to secure the connection with the self, your own heart, the connection to spirit, because otherwise you’ll be lonely. If you don’t have a connection to spirit, then you don’t have a connection to your home, your ultimate home, and then if you don’t have that, you’ll really be lonely. Then to find other kindred spirits, even just a couple — you don’t have to find lots and lots but just a few who see you, who get you, who you can talk to, you’re not afraid of being judged by, just you’re on the same wavelength. That’s been a very important part of my life, is having the friends. Friendships are so precious, the ones you go through over many years. You have them, and they know you. You know them. You’ve supported each other through everything. That’s very meaningful to me. And it’s an important aspect of — there’s six billion of us on the planet. That’s a hint that we’re not supposed to be completely by ourselves. No. I mean, some people prefer that. Yeah, but I think there’s an opportunity for community and sharing that’s growing.



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There is, and there’s such a hunger for it, especially people on the intuitive and spiritual path. Maybe they’ve lived in conservative environments where people don’t really understand that, but there’s so many of us out there now that you can connect with us where there are all kinds of — I mean, through your community. There’s all kinds of ways to connect with likeminded people. It gives you a good feeling in your heart to do that. Yeah. So if someone is facing loneliness, what kind of recommendations do you give that they might not be practiced at connecting? Well, number one meditation to connect with yourself and to connect with spirit, to get used to going inward. You see, it’s not just connecting to other people. You can be with other people and feel lonely. You have to be around the right people. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I’m sure everyone can relate to being in a group of people and everyone all looks happy and connected, and you feel lonely and out of it. It’s a very common feeling, where you think everyone else is happy, but you’re not, and you’re not connecting. You just need to align with activities, and use your intuition for what resonates. If you love being out in nature, then go out in nature with somebody or join a group that likes to go out in nature. I am a big cloud lover. I am such a lover of clouds. My friend sent me, on my Facebook account, she sent me this group. It’s called the Cloud Appreciation Society, which I’m going to join, I think. That’s awesome. There’s a group for all of us, isn’t there? There is, the lover of clouds. I love clouds. I post all these pictures of clouds on my Facebook account because I’m so in love with them. I take pictures of clouds from the airplane looking down. I take it from the ocean looking up. My point is that I love that. You love whatever you love, but whatever it is, just find other people you can talk to about it. That would be great. That’s cool. So something that a lot of us face is the fourth transformation, which is anxiety, worry and then in turn building inner calm. You have a really great story about your friend Bernice, that you actually developed an irregular heartbeat from her chemotherapy. Oh, yes, in a sense. I was getting very anxious. My friend Bernice was going through chemo a number of years ago, and I was very anxious about the whole thing for her. She wasn’t nearly as anxious as I was, and so I started getting irregular heartbeats. I went to the doctor, and he gave me a halter monitor, which is a 24‐hour test of the heart where you have wires on your body. It just measures your heart. I mean, it’s nothing. It just measures your heart, but I went to visit her during her first chemo treatment, and I was wired up to the halter. So that means they can measure my heartbeat, and so the time when I was with her, my heartbeat was irregular five times more than any other time during that 24‐hour period. So I was able to see. It’s so amazing really, looking back. I was able to see how my anxiety affected my own irregular heartbeat, as I was hooked up, as she was getting the chemo. So I was a living experiment really. It just happened to be that timing of it, because I didn’t plan to do it that way, but I got to see my own biological responses recorded as a result of my anxiety. It was a benign irregularity in my heartbeat related to the anxiety of her situation and my reaction to her situation. Our bodies strongly react, and as an empath, my body is a very sensitive receptor. I’m very sensitive to various things, so I build up my body through meditation, which is my primary spiritual practice, through diet, through exercise, through being in nature. I’m strengthening my body and my care all the time, because I want it to be very strong. Sometimes when empaths don’t have that, they can teeter. If they’re around somebody who’s anxious, they become anxious, that kind of thing. They’re absorbent of other people’s emotions, so go right to that chapter in the book on emotional types and read about



being an emotional empath and what to do about it and practice the strategies. It will make all the difference in the world. Then you can enjoy this gorgeous thing of empathy that you have. Jennifer: Judith:

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So we can take this thing that can sometimes feel negative, and we can turn it around. We can turn it around and make it something that is a beautiful blessing for us, and it defines who we are. Oh, absolutely. I mean, being an empath is a huge blessing. It allows you to deeply experience so many gorgeous things. You just have to learn how to take care of yourself and your own energy. That’s why I wanted to write in the book to tell people how to do it, because I’ve worked with it so much. I continue to keep learning more and working with it, but I’ve done pretty well with it in terms of feeling secure in how I deal with my own intuitive empathy. Yeah. This has been a really beautiful call, and we’re actually at the top of the hour, so before we finish up, I do want to share that you’ve got a really cool special offer that your team has put together with me. You can start checking that out by going to healingwiththemasters.com/judithspecial, but before we go there, was there anything that you really need us to understand and hear about emotional freedom and the things we’ve been talking about today? Just that everybody can achieve this. This is for everybody in your life, and start out with just very small changes. Now, practice some of the principles in the book and celebrate the small changes. Know that they’re huge really. I don’t believe in small things. I think any step away from the darkness is huge, so practice that with yourself and have fun with it. I hope that I’ve conveyed all the fun that I have working with some sort of difficult situations. It’s how you look at it that is so key. It’s how you look at things. It’s your perception of things. If you can look at these events in your life as great challenges to empower yourself and to grow and to outsmart the darkness so you don’t feed into warlike patterns, it can be very meaningful, every step you take. I hope everyone appreciates it in themselves. Beautiful. Thank you so much, Judith. I think that’s such an important message, which is we have an opportunity. We have a choice to change the way we see something and how it shows up for us and to use it, like you’ve been talking about that the whole call. Thank you for this lovely perspective and for modeling for us how to do that. This has been a beautiful call. Thank you very much. You’re welcome. I hope I’ve inspired people. Without a doubt you have, and also if you’re looking for more inspiration, we’ve worked with Judith’s folks to put together a really special package. We have her book. Emotional Freedom is available here. We’ll ship that to you, and then we’ve got a bunch of download things. We’ve got Intuitive Power, a special live workshop with Dr. Judith Orloff and Caroline Myss, who was on our series last time. This looks like a beautiful, beautiful partnership on how to tap into your intuition for health and healing and life guidance and kind of understanding the subtle energies and the wisdom of the body. Then there is the healing power of positive energy. This is a live workshop recorded in Burbank, California, all kinds of wonderful content delivered and new tools and new insights. So it takes you much deeper into many of the things that Judith has been talking about today: how to use your intuition to access energy from physical to spiritual; how to read energy fields; how to avoid fatigue by not absorbing people’s pain or negativity — I know a lot of us who are in the healing rooms could use that — prevent defensive eating, a major reason diets fail; prevent energetic overload and exhaustion from being in crowds; maintain your body’s physical health. So she’s going to show you a way in that really cool workshop. Then there’s a video download, Five Steps to Intuitive Decision Making: notice your beliefs, be in your body, sense your body’s subtle energy. There’s wonderful, wonderful information here on how to access your intuition to really guide you legitimately to a wonderful, positive decision that feels like your sense of knowing has been activated. There’s also the Mind Body Healing Frontiers. This is something Dr. Orloff did with Dr. Bruce Lipton and Mingtong Gu, powerful information about traditional medicine, energy medicine, intuition and the revolutionary field of epigenetics. This is another video that’s available for



you that’s going to take you deep into a new understanding of how to assist yourself and discover your intuition. Finally, we also have the Awaken Intuition for Health, Energy and Creativity. This is Dr. Orloff and musicians that got together and created a wonderful video about how to get into your gut feelings, how to heed your body’s early warning systems, how to act on what inspires you, how to pay attention to people’s vibes, even to listen to your wisdom and dreams. There’s a whole thing in here about dreams and how to access the intuitive wisdom of dreams. Really a powerful package. There are six full products here for you at a 52 percent discount, and if you enjoyed Judith as much as I did, you’ll want to go deeper into this information. It’s chock full of everything and the tools and insights that are going to give you a life of maybe ease and grace, something where you can actually claim your future instead of having your future happen to you. I don't know if Judith is still on with us. Judith: Jennifer: Judith:

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I am. Do you have any comments about your special offer, about any of those products? Oh, it’s just such a beautiful offer. If you want to learn emotional freedom, you can get the book and then get all these CDs and audios on how to develop intuition, positive energy and emotional freedom. One is with Caroline Myss, who is my friend and another great teacher, and one is with Dr. Bruce Lipton, who teaches epigenetics, which is a whole other field in terms of learning how to control your body and take command of what goes on inside. It’s just a great offer. You’ll be able to look at videos, listen to audios, read the book. It’s just a well‐rounded offer to develop intuition and your own body’s energies. Yeah. I’m really excited with what your team worked with me to come up with me. This is a really cool offer, so thank you so much for putting it together and giving us such a great discount on it as well. Again, that’s healingwiththemasters.com/judithspecial. If you’re listening to the replay, just scroll down and get the big purple button down there. If you’re on the webcast right now, you can click on the offer button right on the webcast there, and it’ll take you right to the special offer, healingwiththemasters.com/judithspecial. And I forgot. I have to do the phrase that pays. We’re going to say that the phrase that pays tonight is gusher. So we have a contest, Judith, where we’re giving away $100 a show. So if you’d like to participate in that contest, go to healingwiththemasters.com/contest.htm and put in gusher under Judith Orloff’s show. Gusher is the phrase that pays. Thank you, Judith for joining us. I’m going to go on to a few more announcements. You’re welcome to stay with us if you’d like. You don’t have to. You’re welcome. I think I’ll sign off, but I thank everyone on the call. I hope everyone enjoyed it. You were wonderful. Thanks for joining us, Judith. It was great having you back again. You’re very welcome. We’re also going to announce last week’s winners of the $100. The last week’s winner is, for Hale’s show, is Vanessa Blair Alvarez. Congratulations, Vanessa. You’ve won $100. Laurel Williamson for Elizabeth’s show won $100. Thanks for joining us, and if you want to play in this week’s contest, just do the phrase that pays. Listen for them. It’s gusher for tonight, and you go to healingwiththemasters.com/contest. Join us on Thursday at 4:00 Pacific Time, where we’re going to be hanging out with Richard Bartlett, who created Matrix Energetics. I’m so excited to have him on the show. This is one of the first times he’s done any kind of series like this, and we’re so thrilled and excited that he decided to join us. So join us at 4:00 on Thursday, and I think I got everything in tonight. Thanks, everyone, for joining us. I love you all so very much, and I’m delighted that you’ve chosen to hang out with us tonight or, if you’re listening to the replay, that you’ve chosen to spend your time with us. We’ll see you all next time. Bye now.

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